Whether there is stigma or not wasn't the point i was making. The point is that the feelings associated with stuttering from stuttering matter a lot more than perceived stigma. When I go to Mcdonalds and i am unable to say my order, I am angry because I cannot say the words for my order more than I am about what the random person thinks of me. I'm emotional when I am unable to literally say my own name when somebody asks it of me. I can go on and on here. There may be stigma, but I would argue that it is not to the extent that we perceive it to be.