Well my point about fluency was to make the case that I’m not aware of any person who once had a significant stutter and managed to become [actually] fluent. I have heard of people who can produce speech with no audible stutters but clearly do it with a lot of effort and concentration (president Biden being a good example.) So, maybe it’s possible, I’ve just never heard of it. It seems to be a lot more likely that if you have a significant stutter at some point [in adulthood] you will always have it *in some form*. It seems like it’s an intrinsic part of who you part like hair or eye color. You can dye your hair but you can’t change the color that grows in at the roots. Just my opinion based on the informal “research” I’ve done by having a stutter myself, reading books about it, reading about a lot of people’s experienceson the internet (still not brave enough to go to in person support groups or events!) I’m fully aware that I could be wrong 🤷‍♀️