I just responded to u/Obvious_Elephant998 in this post. Read what I wrote there, especially the link I posted to an older thread where I make a ton of comments sharing my experience. I wouldn't characterize it as 'removing stuttering.' It was learning fluency. From the ground up. Going back to square one and learning speech anew. I'm not an SLP, so I can only speak anecdotally. But my kneejerk reaction when you say that SLPs are telling you that you can't achieve fluency is "You've not found the right SLP." Fear, mindfullness, yoga... That all sounds like suggestions one might hear from psychologists or general practitioners. Did these SLPs specialize in stuttering? Would you care to share a link to one of these doctors? (I hope I'm not overstepping by asking this.) I'd be curious to see their credentials. Can you learn it too? The SLP was a key factor in the program I received. I was working with a leading doctor who was a researcher in the field. I'm certain he isn't a unicorn. But I also didn't find him on my own. I received a referral to him from another academic. I sometimes suggest university speech pathology programs as a starting point for people seeking help. Find the top programs in your country and reach out to those universities. They may have programs themselves or be able to refer you to their graduates who specialize in your needs. If someone says they can't help you, fine. Accept them at their word. But if it was their child with the problem, who would they refer them to?