I attended the McGuire Prog in 1999. Agreed it was transformative. I will never forget getting up on a box in Grafton St and belting out a 1 min speech. Without doubt, one of the most important and meaningful experiences of my life. While I continue to struggle on occasion, I live my life on my terms (most of the time) I do think the recovery pathway as articulated on this programme is different for those whose lived experience is overt v covert. The psychology I believe is similar in many ways but different also. Just my own thoughts really