> They've settled. Well, they would disagree with you.... I just think we have to be very careful about telling other people that they're not living in the right way. There is never just one way....The presumptuousness of telling someone that this, this whatever it is, is *the* way, and if you're not able to get there that way, then you have failed in some sense -- I think that can be destructive. You talk about "having great control over your subconscious mind." I gotta say, I don't even know what that means. How can it be subconscious if we have control over it? I don't even agree that we can have much control over what we think. Nor do I believe that any meditative practice is about that. It's about awareness of those thoughts, yes -- awareness, a kind of witnessing, an acceptance. But control? Eh, I think many would say it's the opposite of control.... Perversely, thru these practices we might find we have more choice about what we do and don't do -- more control. But I don't believe we get there through learning to control our thoughts. But this can easily dissolve into an argument over what is "control," an argument that gets tiresome pretty fast. Is learning to be aware of negative thoughts but not to live in them -- to watch them pass by, so to speak -- is that controlling one's thoughts? Well, that's one of many ago old philosophical questions that could be asked about all of this. Isn't it.