This reply I wrote got long but TL;DR is that those are 2 reasonable questions but I'm not really here for another "DID YOU REALLY TRY THO?" Maybe you stutter and got therapy that worked for you! I am sure if I had an experience like that I would probably ask too. "You didn't get the right therapy!!" LOL does this work on people who didn't even have a chance?? what were their credentials? In all likelihood I was a an excellent guinea pig providing additional funding and (from what I experienced) unskilled internships for SLP students. I don't blame my parents for failing to find me "better" "Therapy" sooner because they did not know any better and were not provided with any information that led them to believe it was anything other than my lack of "motivation". I did not know my paternal grandfather had a stutter until I was 15. The reason they didn't tell me was the same reason I never knew my great-grandmother even though she was alive when I was a child! My grandfather's mother would apparently brag that she BEAT THE STUTTER RIGHT OUT OF HIM so I am pretty sure that helped my parents put their faith in the school system. I guess my therapy wasn't as shitty as his? lol he grew up to be quiet and unpleasant and when his hearing went he resisted a hearing aid. I fully believe his refusal was based in his fluency related trauma even though the hearing aid was so he could functionally hear I don't think he ever emotionally worked out the difference between being *unable* to hear vs being able to speak just less fluently than some. It's actually thinking about his experience that brought me here at all: there is pretty much nothing out there that I can easily find that focuses on acceptance and confidence for stutters who cannot achieve (or do not wish to endure the treatment to attain) FLUENCY. It's really hopeless for people without success, even at NSA meetings I have been to all anyone has to offer is suggestions for therapy and if you aren't in therapy or resist therapy the whole room gets a "Quitter in the room!!" vibe. The DAF device was attained in the only series of therapy I attempted past the age of 18: I fought my insurance company and worked very hard to "figure out if it had benefit" at great expense to my parents and my self esteem. All of these parameters are dubious and great set ups for people who stutter to fall into feeling like they are the problem vs this expectation of fluency being the problem. I tried for 6mo with no improvement, I really tried and really hoped it would get me that job that it directly cost me! (I bet I would have gotten the job if I stuttered with confidence). Repeating, Breathing, streeeetching words out aren't useless to me but they're basically.... my stutter itself! I learned what there was to learn I am pretty sure, sometimes those get me past a sentence?! I truly feel healthier and happier without the constant inner and outer messages saying "maybe you didn't try hard enough! it must be you! try this unhelpful thing again maybe?" and I know I can't be the only one! will follow this r/ for sure. in summary, I really wish I had been encouraged and instructed how best to speak with confidence in spite of my stutter. Confidence coaching would have helped me a lot with avoiding fights and just deflecting damaging ill will & ignorance. I have rehearsed quickly telling people I have a speech impediment in professional settings to reduce embarrassment and I thought it was for my comfort but years since I started that with confidence it's really served to prevent unsuspecting people from embarrassing themselves at work having to double back on that hur-durr chuckle they let slip when I stuttered telling them my DOB or something.