Yeah and like all those 30 YO+ long life stutterers here who have tried everything and spent unhealthy amount of money (5 digits) on speech therapies and relapsed anyway like majority of adult stutters I know IRL. Few of them still tried to reach fluency and are depressed every day because they cant. Maybe i will tell them to "trick their brain". I am not depressed because I know that I cant beat it. Just your toxic false hope topic triggered me and gave me Vietnam flashbacks.