I dont look at the other people eyes when talking, but i do it a lot when hearing. I was so stress when talking because everyone was staring at me, now i dont look at their eyes and i have improved a lot I did therapy many years but didnt feel like it was helping. I also bought a thing called speecheasy but in cases with a lot of stress it didnt work for me. I finished accepting this thing, i cannot hide it but i can manage it at certain point.