Im sorry then. It seems that men are convinced that women have it easier and men have it harder. Black and white thinking, similar rhetoric is my impression in incel communities or red pill. Believing that one is a victim is more comfortable than knowing that women don't have it as easy. They only look at a narrow slice of people and generalize this to the entire gender. All in all I can agree, it was just my musing, I could have been wrong that stuttering is positive only in women, and in fact an equally negative trait. He doesn't want to fight on anecdotal evidence, because in fact these men, despite stuttering, may have ended up with a woman who doesn't mind it, or the overall personality was cool. I am able to believe that men are equally averse to a stuttering woman - not to mention desperate, creeps. I think its cool that women approach first, it may help people with stuttering/shyness if she doesnt care about it. Yes there are various dating apps, or even looking for friends through hobbies, where you can warn that you stutter, it may help. Although apps like tinder, do not particularly help. Let's say you are at some event/convention dedicated to a hobby. Then you kind of naturally get to know the other person, even minor flaws like stuttering may not really bother you, rather than look for a split second at a photo, description and delete. Let's say you walk up to someone you smile and say compliments because he has nice hair, costume. You might even develop a conversation and familiarity and through apps it's so artificial, you miss that live contact with the other person. Yeah halo effect. Being attracive as men/women is more helpful with stuttering I think. When people see pretty girl/boy they are more sympathetic when he/she is stuttering, but its not general rule. It would be poor to have such friends.