I agree so much! For the phone call, before I was really scared. Then I had to do two weeks quarantine during covid in an hotel. The meals could be ordered only by phone, each evening for the next day. The first days I was so nervous, I will think about it during the full 2 hours before having to make one. But at the end of the two weeks it was a no-brainer. It has completely unlocked my fear of phone calls.