Yes, I think that any feelings of desire (yes also the desire for more fluency) is not only unnecessary, but is also a liability if we associate **desire** with the **defensive mechanism** (that prevents thoughts from being spoken out loud). I think that we need to differentiate between: - the action 'choosing' and - the feeling 'desire'. If non-stutterers are going to speak then they are required to **choose** to execute speech plans (aka central decision).. - speech movements require an instruction. Example, let's say that I'm walking next to a river.. humans are required to provide their subconscious with an instruction to execute/initiate leg movements (when walking) (e.g., instructions WHEN, WHERE AND HOW they should walk). You could argue that it's subconscious, and this is true, but then the question is, Why didn't we walk into the river (in this example,. we are walking right next to a river after all)? If it's subconscious, why did the subconscious avoid walking in the river, in this example? Answer: It's because we (subconsciously) instruct/decide to walk along the river (and not in the river), right? In the same way, speech is subconscious but we still have to choose the speech plan (that is WHEHN, HOW and WHAT) we say. I think we can all agree with this. Regarding the feelings of desire. I argue that this desire is not a fluency law. If this is true, then by definition, is we associate 'feelings of desire for more fluency' with the defensive mechanism. Then it becomes more of a liability, like a secondary or unnecessary coping response. We can execute speech plans without any desire, in that, I can execute speech plans even in moments when I have neutral feelings (so no desire), or even when I don't experience any feelings. Why should a feeling of desire be required? Why should it? In the same way, humans are able to execute speech plans whenever they are feeling fear, right? If I'm speaking alone and don't stutter, and I see a spider and become afraid, this is not going to increase my stuttering, it's not going to decrease my defensive mechanism that prevents execution of speech plans. Why? Because at that moment, I have not associated 'fear of a spider' with 'a defensive mechanism' (that prevents thoughts from being spoken out loud). Your thoughts? Now, what happens if we use a feeling of desire, and this so happened to result in more fluency? I'd say that in this case, the feeling of desire might have reduced the defensive mechanism (that normally prevents execution of speech plans). In other words, we associated 'a feeling' with 'a defensive mechanism', so by definition, it became a 'rule' (a high expectation) that decides whether the defensive mechanism should prevent or allow execution of speech plans. This results in controlled fluency. That is the opposite of subconscious fluency and stuttering remission, which is what I'm aiming for. Definition of speech plan: A speech plan (in our brain) consists of WHAT and HOW we plan to say something right before we speak. The execution of a speech plan results in: (1) inner speech (which is the inner voice in your head), or (2) speaking out loud.