No thank you. I'll never hesitate to tell a parent to pursue effective speech therapy if their story merits it. But I have told parents in this sub that if their teen is refusing to engage in speech therapy, that there is no point in them going, as it does require dedication and work. I've read the stories here about people that don't have successful experiences with therapy. I fully realize how many ineffective programs exist. And that not every program is right for every stutterer (See my other comment in this post.) Never do I make fluency programs out as simple or easy. I put it out there that not every program will work for you, and it takes perseverance. For the parent of the eight-year-old, it's completely reasonable to pursue fluency via therapy, even if they haven't had success yet. More people in this subreddit should look at therapy again. They should try again. Maybe they've learned dozens of fluency approaches that haven't worked for them. But if they are unhappy with their fluency, discounting therapy isn't going to help them.