commentr/StutterJanuary 9, 2023

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>"The more you think of it the more you will do it. The more you try, the worse it gets. " Your statement supports what 80% of PWS say that outgrow stuttering eg "don't pay attention to stuttering". ​ >"The way im thinking is that stuttering is almost like an OCD obsessive thought" This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/OCDRecovery/comments/xjsttj/tips_for_stutteringocd_observing_triggers_not/) discusses how OCD and stuttering are related and has some ideas on how to approach it. ​ >"Stop the loop and try to disassociate yourself from being a stutterer to a thing that you do" Most stutter [books](https://www.freestutteringbooks.com/free-stuttering-books.html) on this website (where authors put their stutter book for free) agree with dissociating the viewpoint of your 'self' from stuttering ​ >"Don't give yourself a hard time for not being able to" In my opinion I agree, because PWS react to stuttering because we view stuttering as a problem and to be 'fixed' so we try unhelpful ways to control the speaking mechanism which maintains a vicious cycle of not choosing to breathe out during a speech block. It's effective to stop giving yourself a hard time when stuttering. This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Stutter/comments/105ndb1/tips_to_improve_stuttering_from_the_book/) has more tips ​ >"Stopping the cause of the blocks" There is a lot of misinformation in this subreddit. Research states that stuttering is a neurological problem for example: 1. During our stuttering development we (PWS) created a mindset that stuttering is a problem and to be avoided which created strong emotions to stuttering and symptoms to relieve ourselves from anxiety or 'try to control' our speech mechanism in an unhelpful way. We experienced stuttering so much that we started to anticipate, viewing ourselves as stutterers and denying responsibility for our unhelpful behaviors like (fight, flight) freeze response, and did story-telling (like creating feared letters). This eventually became a habit (aka neurologically hardwired) which made it harder for us to stop believing in 'feared letters', anticipation and started believing that we needed more control (adding control). 2. Research is divided on how much percentage (some even say 10%) of PWS have a neurological predisposition at birth. Research explains this as: a neurological predisposition is for example that we are sensitive to anxiety or a weak immune system that predisposes us to catching lots of colds and ear infections during stuttering development. This deficit in combination with an unhelpful thinking pattern (from number 1) that justifies 'not breathing out during a speech block' because we view stuttering as a problem and to be avoided, then could lead to developing a chronic stutter disorder. 3. Research states that additionally genetics could play a role, however, researchers state that not many PWS have been diagnosed with this gene yet (although it's more in males) so research is still inconclusive on genes. Research states that **all people** are not biologically born to speak. Speaking is a learned behavior. In my opinion, there is no cure because the stutter community is not ready yet for a strategy to outgrow stuttering. Contrary to my opinion, I perceive that stutter therapies add control, reinforce attention to stuttering and reinforce a stutter mental state that we cannot outgrow stuttering, whereas 80% (or 87.5% according to recent studies) of people who stutter - outgrow stuttering (eg by subtracting control, not paying attention, confidence in ability to speak etc). To my surprise, Stutter Exposure Therapy reinforces a stutter mental state, whereas Exposure Response Prevention and Mindfulness (and other modalities) reinforce a fluency mental state. **Future studies could research the effectiveness of changing the philosophy (of stutter therapies) when changing from the stutter mental state to fluency mental state (since PWS both have a hardwired stutter mental state as well as a hardwired fluency mental state)**

Themes

Anticipation & AvoidanceCauses & VariabilityCoping & Advocacy

Subthemes

Avoidance & SubstitutionOverthinking & MonitoringAnticipating StutteringNeurological & BrainGenetic & Family FactorsMindset shift

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socializing_group_sizepropositionality