you are so right, if we try to speak without stutter, then we actually stutter. So, then the question is: should we not try to speak fluently? To answer this question, we need to understand what happens if we 'speak by default' without technique. If we speak by default (without any strategy) and just run our autopilot, then we stutter. So the conclusion is: we need to try to 'change' something in order to stop stuttering. Isn't 'trying to change something' already considered **trying**? Conclusion: \-> so we need to try something to stop stuttering. \-> the way we are trying now, only increases stuttering \-> then the obvious question is: what is the correct way of trying to stop stuttering? I believe there are many ways that lead to Rome, there must be at least a 100 different ways to reach fluency the correct way (where we remove stuttering) but we haven't found it yet, or has it already been found do you think (like in other specialties or fields not stuttering related)?