Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. I have tried these last 2 years as hard as I can By taking my stutter as a top sport. I practice like a top athlete. reading out loud and recording my self. It helped me a lot. But I still more often then not micro stutter (which seems a lot better than 3 or 4 years ago when I was stuttering far worse then now) but it still hinders me when giving full presentations as a real estate agent. I don't like to think of it never going away. It hurts to live with it. but practicing every day does give me some self esteem. Cheers to you that you have accepted and owned it.