Yeah it was kind of a kick in the gut when it happened. It was years ago but I still remember I just couldn't get past this one word and so I had my eyes closed just trying over and over again and then finally I got there and when I opened my eyes, I saw his were closed and he was quietly snoring. I just got up and walked away. I don't think I ever told him about it either. He's a good brother though. Just don't expect much out of him after thanksgiving dinner. Your stuttering experience is really interesting. I'm sure you don't think of it that way though. When you say it can take a few days to fade, does that mean it fades entirely or almost entirely or just the severity is diminished but stuttering is still present? You mentioned B and W sounds. Do you find yourself having more trouble with certain sounds like B and W than other sounds? >*The most difficult part about those ones is it’ll often take me back to a bit of the traumatized feeling, and the stuttering ITSELF becomes what’s making me upset, so it compounds on itself* This touches on something I wanted to ask earlier but didn't. So for me and I think for most people who have stuttered since childhood, there is this irrational sense of shame that comes along with stuttering. Even though we know in our brains that it's not our fault and that it doesn't define us, we still feel super embarrassed when it happens and want to hide it from everyone and will go to great lengths trying to not out ourselves as stutterers. In some of my previous social circles, there were times that people I knew for a few years didn't know I stuttered. Because when I was around them, it was almost always in a group setting and in a group setting, I can say very little and get away with it because there's almost always someone else ready to talk. But then eventually they'll see it and it's such a weird awkward moment because now you feel like your lie has been exposed. I literally would think of it as "being caught stuttering." And they're just concerned because they've never seen you do this before and think you're having a seizure or a stroke or something.. All of that to ask you - with your stuttering having started more recently as an adult or young adult (not sure how old you are), do you ever feel this irrational sense of shame that a lot of lifetime stutters feel? Does the act of stuttering make you feel embarrassed? Or is it mostly about the traumatic experience you went through resurfacing? I hope I'm not asking too many personal questions. I just feel like there's a lot to be learned here about the nature of stuttering. I'm in my 40's but I still feel like I've been caught stuttering when I do it for the first time in front of someone who hasn't seen it before. And that's strange but the feeling persists regardless. I think it comes from having grown up with it and trying to not let the other kids see it. So I'm just really curious about the similarities and differences in my experience versus your own.